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abracadabra102
10-13 11:50 AM
When Jun-July 2004 PD will be current? Any guess?
No one knows dick about PD movement. EB3 filers think that somehow EB2 PD gets stuck or even retrogress and EB3 PDs race forward to 2003/2004, through some delusional logic. Those who filed under EB2 think, EB2 PD moves to 2005/2006. These predictions are mostly prejudicial. USCIS may have some idea after entering all June/July/Aug applications, that is if they can find someone who can add :D.
My two cents...
No one knows dick about PD movement. EB3 filers think that somehow EB2 PD gets stuck or even retrogress and EB3 PDs race forward to 2003/2004, through some delusional logic. Those who filed under EB2 think, EB2 PD moves to 2005/2006. These predictions are mostly prejudicial. USCIS may have some idea after entering all June/July/Aug applications, that is if they can find someone who can add :D.
My two cents...
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WillIBLucky
02-02 09:51 AM
Miscommunication happens. I completely understand.
FYI, all, I just called Senator Kerry's office and he said what ever is there in Congress.gov is true and it is passed according to him. Go figure.
WillBLucky,
Why do we bang our heads when IV core has already mentioned that no immigration reform was attached to min wage bill in senate which is already passed.
Trust them......
FYI, all, I just called Senator Kerry's office and he said what ever is there in Congress.gov is true and it is passed according to him. Go figure.
WillBLucky,
Why do we bang our heads when IV core has already mentioned that no immigration reform was attached to min wage bill in senate which is already passed.
Trust them......
willwin
10-05 04:01 PM
We should NOT be surprised that there is no movement in EB2/EB3 Categories given the number of applications filed recently. We may not see any reasonable forward movement for a long time unless congress passes the visa recapture bill.
I don't think the July/August filings will have impact on the retrogression right away. The cut-off dates would retrogress based on number of applications ready for approval/approved pending VISA number. The applications (485) filed in July/August are not processed yet and hence will not impact retrogression today.
I don't think the July/August filings will have impact on the retrogression right away. The cut-off dates would retrogress based on number of applications ready for approval/approved pending VISA number. The applications (485) filed in July/August are not processed yet and hence will not impact retrogression today.
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pappu
06-26 10:11 AM
The situation is the same. In my case and of course in most of others too, what he/she said is correct. Waiting for Eb3 to cross 2001 has become a difficult thing. If I started an EB2 app rather than hoping positively, I would have finished my wait for GC.
Ever since retrogression started the dates have not crossed 2001. 245i or not, the backlog is a fact. Sad part, when there is action items from IV, trying to talk to my state members, I have realized and been told that IV does not cater to EB3 anymore. It is disheartening how much ever I try to explain, occasional members look at IV threads like EB2-EB3 predictions and say there is no hope for EB3 and also IV has no answer to it.
I tried my part...too bad I was not able to participate in the IV advocacy day due to family emergency. anyway, let us hope IV's persistence yields us the results. My heart goes for a lot of EB3s who may automatically qualify for EB2 just due to their experience.
Best of luck to all.
You are hearing utter nonsense from your friends. They have no inclination to find out the truth or wish to take part in the action item. Such armchair strategy folks are the reason we are all suffering in EB3 I. If these folks joined this effort and worked hard to fix it, we would have made lot more progress. Despite being highly educated, some people fall prey to divisive posts and opinions on the forums without checking the facts.
People who had come to the DC advocacy day this month know what we do and that our focus is solving EB retrogression completely. We do not talk about EB2 , EB3 categories. We talk about the overall retrogression in EB visas.
The biggest damage and threat to this effort is not from anti-immigrants or other interest groups but from people of our own community who spread lies, pursue personal agenda and grudges, talk against this effort and cause damage to this community effort. They forget that this damages their own cause. Have you seen divisive posts, or anti-organization posts on the forums of anti-immigrants? Just think about it.
After leading this effort for more than 4 years I have come to a realization that we as a community are the reason of our own failure and the reason for our own successes. There is nobody else to be blamed. If we have to blame someone for this broken system, it is ourselves for not being able to get together and fix it.
Ever since retrogression started the dates have not crossed 2001. 245i or not, the backlog is a fact. Sad part, when there is action items from IV, trying to talk to my state members, I have realized and been told that IV does not cater to EB3 anymore. It is disheartening how much ever I try to explain, occasional members look at IV threads like EB2-EB3 predictions and say there is no hope for EB3 and also IV has no answer to it.
I tried my part...too bad I was not able to participate in the IV advocacy day due to family emergency. anyway, let us hope IV's persistence yields us the results. My heart goes for a lot of EB3s who may automatically qualify for EB2 just due to their experience.
Best of luck to all.
You are hearing utter nonsense from your friends. They have no inclination to find out the truth or wish to take part in the action item. Such armchair strategy folks are the reason we are all suffering in EB3 I. If these folks joined this effort and worked hard to fix it, we would have made lot more progress. Despite being highly educated, some people fall prey to divisive posts and opinions on the forums without checking the facts.
People who had come to the DC advocacy day this month know what we do and that our focus is solving EB retrogression completely. We do not talk about EB2 , EB3 categories. We talk about the overall retrogression in EB visas.
The biggest damage and threat to this effort is not from anti-immigrants or other interest groups but from people of our own community who spread lies, pursue personal agenda and grudges, talk against this effort and cause damage to this community effort. They forget that this damages their own cause. Have you seen divisive posts, or anti-organization posts on the forums of anti-immigrants? Just think about it.
After leading this effort for more than 4 years I have come to a realization that we as a community are the reason of our own failure and the reason for our own successes. There is nobody else to be blamed. If we have to blame someone for this broken system, it is ourselves for not being able to get together and fix it.
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NolaIndian32
04-08 06:18 PM
Looks like we have had over 3000 views on this thread, and about 7 ppl have signed up with Team IV thus far, not a bad start for the first two days, but we really need IVians to come together for this initiative.
camarasa
07-11 05:44 PM
They wont work on it, they just accept it. FIFO (First in- First out) Priority date is always going to be the order. So, Camarasa, your older priority date will be processed before EVERYBODY Else w/ latter Priority. Dont worry.
Thanks amitjoey - I knew that already though - I was just correcting what I understood from srikondoji's post.
Thanks amitjoey - I knew that already though - I was just correcting what I understood from srikondoji's post.
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doesntmatter
04-12 12:08 AM
have you ever took a vacation day off faking ill-health either of yourself or somebody you know? when its convenient for us, we tend to legitimize what we do, when somebody else does it, they have to suffer. And oh no, you are not selfish, you are just jealous
Enough is enough. I am ready to sign this.
I have 3 real names. All were working for Cognizant. One had 3 years of exp. Cooked up with 4 years of B.Tech and totalled it as 7 years. Came on L1 as PM and applied in EB1. He got GC in less than 1 year. Other 2 had real 7 years exp and got GC's in 8 months. All were working at Client's place and NOT intra company transfers.
I am not selfish. But I am sure this guy with 3 years exp may one day become a boss for any of us.
This misuse will hurt the genuine cases. Shall we we go serious and complaint? I am ready to sign and submit all the proof.
Enough is enough. I am ready to sign this.
I have 3 real names. All were working for Cognizant. One had 3 years of exp. Cooked up with 4 years of B.Tech and totalled it as 7 years. Came on L1 as PM and applied in EB1. He got GC in less than 1 year. Other 2 had real 7 years exp and got GC's in 8 months. All were working at Client's place and NOT intra company transfers.
I am not selfish. But I am sure this guy with 3 years exp may one day become a boss for any of us.
This misuse will hurt the genuine cases. Shall we we go serious and complaint? I am ready to sign and submit all the proof.
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amitga
04-08 03:01 PM
I wonder what will visa bulletin predictors do for next 5 months. Not much to predict.::)
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04-06 04:29 PM
Note: This effort is endorsed by IV and NolaIndian 32 will lead this effort.
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shreekarthik
06-16 08:48 PM
CIR bill is only supported by a few US citizenry groups. Even those Hispanics who are here legally do not support it. Let's face it. If it weren't for the provisions helping EB based PR applicants, even IV wouldn't support it. Given all this, I highly doubt if Dems will gain if CIR passes. I certainly can feel the general US public against CIR. And I live in Portland, Or, supposedly one of the best liberal states in USA. Best case scenario for this bill could be a pass, at the end of the year after elections provided all it's supporters get elected.
Remember even Mr. Bush said he wanted a immi. bill by the end of the year (wink wink)
Remember even Mr. Bush said he wanted a immi. bill by the end of the year (wink wink)
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07-14 03:38 PM
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go_gc_way
06-17 10:32 AM
GCKarma,
How do u know that CIR is dead..? I could not any information on the link provided.
I do not know any thing like this where people on H1 (I am not forgetting L1s and others .. :) ) have come together and voiced a request to hear our problem and reduce retrogression.
I wish this goes forward .. Plan B, I think SKILL BILL (?) must be put in to thought.
Yes I read It wont come to a debate until the current one is resolved. I also read , the effort will continue until this problem is looked in to and helped.
CIR may not be completely over ... but discussing Plan B would be good.
How do u know that CIR is dead..? I could not any information on the link provided.
I do not know any thing like this where people on H1 (I am not forgetting L1s and others .. :) ) have come together and voiced a request to hear our problem and reduce retrogression.
I wish this goes forward .. Plan B, I think SKILL BILL (?) must be put in to thought.
Yes I read It wont come to a debate until the current one is resolved. I also read , the effort will continue until this problem is looked in to and helped.
CIR may not be completely over ... but discussing Plan B would be good.
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we_r_d_world
09-25 09:02 AM
There is no point in educating a mass of angry, frustrated EB3-I folks.
By preference (a LEGAL statute), EB1>EB2>EB3
For spillover (a LEGAL statute), EB1>EB2>EB3
EB1-I get their GCs in about a year.
EB2-I get their GCs in about 6 years.
EB3-I get their GCs in about 8 years.
SO WHAT IS THE BLOODY PROBLEM??? Wait your turn patiently like everyone else, or upgrade your skills and education to apply for EB2 jobs. Stop bitchin' and moanin' and trying to find shortcuts in life. There are none.
Please IGNORE I_Got_Skillz and lets continue healthy debate. We should not let person like this create distraction.
we_r_d_world
By preference (a LEGAL statute), EB1>EB2>EB3
For spillover (a LEGAL statute), EB1>EB2>EB3
EB1-I get their GCs in about a year.
EB2-I get their GCs in about 6 years.
EB3-I get their GCs in about 8 years.
SO WHAT IS THE BLOODY PROBLEM??? Wait your turn patiently like everyone else, or upgrade your skills and education to apply for EB2 jobs. Stop bitchin' and moanin' and trying to find shortcuts in life. There are none.
Please IGNORE I_Got_Skillz and lets continue healthy debate. We should not let person like this create distraction.
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H1BLegal95
06-13 11:08 PM
message from IV
Despite the offensive posts and badmouthing on IV site and other sites we are keeping everyone in mind when working on our lobbying effort. We had posted messages in the past about this too. IV does not advice any flower campaign etc without consulting with us. Any wrong move can potentially hurt the interest of this community and the advocacy work we are doing. Please stop posting offensive messages and stop fighting with other members of the community.
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Message from IV for BEC victims
We are aware of the issue and if there is any acion item, we will post it.
also be aware of what we posted earlier on this issue:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6084
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=100024#post100024
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Years we have been told priority date establishes your place in the queue.
We have spurned job offers and declined the new PERM process to hold on to the priority dates.
Many are still awaiting labor certifications from the backlog elimination centers. Out comes USCIS and says everyone with a LC can file I140 & I485.
People still waiting for LC with priority dates in 2003-2004 are seeing applicants who have priority dates as late as 2007 but with approved LCs through PERM walk through to I485.
Net result, USCIS is going to be flooded with applicants enough to retrogress the priority dates 3-4 years back as early as september. (Everybody with a LC will be able to file for I485 in July). So applicants with priority dates of 2007 are going to get EAD and GC, while LC backlogged 2003 applicants to have to wait for another 3-4 years before they can even file I485.
Aint fair. Aint fair at all. How can this be. How can rules be changed in the middle of the game.
Despite the offensive posts and badmouthing on IV site and other sites we are keeping everyone in mind when working on our lobbying effort. We had posted messages in the past about this too. IV does not advice any flower campaign etc without consulting with us. Any wrong move can potentially hurt the interest of this community and the advocacy work we are doing. Please stop posting offensive messages and stop fighting with other members of the community.
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Message from IV for BEC victims
We are aware of the issue and if there is any acion item, we will post it.
also be aware of what we posted earlier on this issue:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6084
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=100024#post100024
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=========================
Years we have been told priority date establishes your place in the queue.
We have spurned job offers and declined the new PERM process to hold on to the priority dates.
Many are still awaiting labor certifications from the backlog elimination centers. Out comes USCIS and says everyone with a LC can file I140 & I485.
People still waiting for LC with priority dates in 2003-2004 are seeing applicants who have priority dates as late as 2007 but with approved LCs through PERM walk through to I485.
Net result, USCIS is going to be flooded with applicants enough to retrogress the priority dates 3-4 years back as early as september. (Everybody with a LC will be able to file for I485 in July). So applicants with priority dates of 2007 are going to get EAD and GC, while LC backlogged 2003 applicants to have to wait for another 3-4 years before they can even file I485.
Aint fair. Aint fair at all. How can this be. How can rules be changed in the middle of the game.
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mhathi
05-16 04:45 PM
I removed congressman Henry Cuellar from the list as he is now the co sponsor of all three bills
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08-04 02:18 PM
after a long time waiting I-485 got approved on 8/3/10 from NSC.
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05-01 03:32 PM
1) Applied Date - July 18 2007
2) Audit Date - Oct 2007
3) Audit Reply Date - November 28 2007
4) Category - EB2
5) Center - Atlanta
2) Audit Date - Oct 2007
3) Audit Reply Date - November 28 2007
4) Category - EB2
5) Center - Atlanta
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04-12 12:56 AM
have you ever took a vacation day off faking ill-health either of yourself or somebody you know? when its convenient for us, we tend to legitimize what we do, when somebody else does it, they have to suffer. And oh no, you are not selfish, you are just jealous
Well...may i ask you this. Dont you have the courage to post all your reply with real id. You just created one new handle to post your crap. So you know what you are talking is not right?
Otherwise come up with your real identity and present your view. Dont be a coward.
Well...may i ask you this. Dont you have the courage to post all your reply with real id. You just created one new handle to post your crap. So you know what you are talking is not right?
Otherwise come up with your real identity and present your view. Dont be a coward.
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yvjoshi100
10-11 10:23 PM
Sussie,
Your letter nor the proposed drft amendment to CSPA does not talk about the children of parents who applied their GC under employment based category and got stuck in the Labor Card approval stage for years and when labor got approved and I140 also got approved then again stuck due to Visa retrogression. We must include injustice being done to these children and should ask for retrospective amendment to CSPA to provide relief.
Your letter nor the proposed drft amendment to CSPA does not talk about the children of parents who applied their GC under employment based category and got stuck in the Labor Card approval stage for years and when labor got approved and I140 also got approved then again stuck due to Visa retrogression. We must include injustice being done to these children and should ask for retrospective amendment to CSPA to provide relief.
waitnwatch
02-01 07:20 PM
all this seems to have passed on 01/24/07??
you are right!!!!!!!!!!!!
and we actually didnot have a clue:confused:
you are right!!!!!!!!!!!!
and we actually didnot have a clue:confused:
willwin
10-18 05:00 PM
Reading from this thread and few other, it is confirmed that in most cases, even if PD is current for a 485 filer, USCIS may not adjudicate those cases unless the processing time is reached. (There are few lucky applicants with PD 2005 and filed 485 after July 2nd and have already received their GC - but that is very few).
And most centers, they are processing Dec 2006 485 applications - a backlog of 10 months.
So, assuming that it may take same 10 months to process 485 filed in July - that is May 2008!!
With this, what are the chances of DOS making PD current for all EB categories again next June? They will do this to use all the VISA numbers for FY2008.
Or, if they don't want to repeat the confusions that happened in July 2007, to what dates will the PDs move (in June/July 2008)? Atleast to 2006?
And most centers, they are processing Dec 2006 485 applications - a backlog of 10 months.
So, assuming that it may take same 10 months to process 485 filed in July - that is May 2008!!
With this, what are the chances of DOS making PD current for all EB categories again next June? They will do this to use all the VISA numbers for FY2008.
Or, if they don't want to repeat the confusions that happened in July 2007, to what dates will the PDs move (in June/July 2008)? Atleast to 2006?
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